NAStyBox

Smart Home / Home Automation

Recommended Posts

NAStyBox    23

Hey, I'm almost done getting my unRaid box where I want it to address my storage and entertainment requirements. 

That being said, I have a Samsung Smartthings hub that needs to be replaced. The core problem with it is Samsung forces firmware updates, with no way to stop them. So every time I get it running the way I want, they seem to break it. Which leaves me with quite a quandary. Should I box it up and sell it on ebay, or take it to the range and mail them back the pieces? I haven't decided yet. HOW someone could screw up light switches I'll never understand, but then to have the audacity to declare certain ones as "unsupported" after you've fubarred their operation with lousy code that you dug out of your crotch? Well that means it's time for Samsung to go. 

That being said, lol, I've seen a few options in CA for home automation. Which one would you choose, and what would you choose hardware wise to get something going on unraid that controls Z-wave and Zigbee devices? I want to give this a go before I go buy a Vera, which was my other choice, because I suspect I'll run into similar issues using a solution like that. 

...and I'm strongly considering the range option. A video of me putting a 9mm round through the middle of a Smartthings hub will no doubt give plenty of other highly frustrated Smartthings hub owners vicarious joy. :D  That and I think I could write it off my taxes as a community service expense. No Smartthings owning IRS worker would question it. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
NotYetRated    3

Z-Wave + Homeseer. Act fast and you can get homeseer 50% off too! I switched from Vera to Smartthings to Vera and finally have found a perfect home with Homeseer. Its in a VM right now and works perfectly, however I may move it to a dedicated.

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
NAStyBox    23
3 hours ago, NotYetRated said:

Z-Wave + Homeseer. Act fast and you can get homeseer 50% off too! I switched from Vera to Smartthings to Vera and finally have found a perfect home with Homeseer. Its in a VM right now and works perfectly, however I may move it to a dedicated.

 

1 hour ago, jonathanm said:

+1 for Homeseer. I've been running it for years now.


So my house is loaded with switches, sensors, and a few sirens. I never did go beyond that because I wasn't happy with Smartthings. 

What would it take to get it going on an unRAID VM, starting with Z-wave and Zigbee devices? This does have to run on a PC or VM, right?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
jonathanm    139

Homeseer will run in multiple environments, personally I'm currently running in a windows 7 vm, I tried to stand up a linux VM for it, it worked great up until I tried to connect my alarm system. Since the 3rd party plugin for my particular alarm was only recently ported to linux, it didn't work well, so I'm still running my windows vm. Homeseer will also run on a Pi, so options abound for the software host.

 

zwave interface wise, it's going to depend on what environment. I use a z-net, which is homeseers own zwave controller built on a pi. I like the ability to place the zwave transmitter anywhere I need, instead of having to stay somewhat near the host running the software.

 

I've never dealt with zigbee, apparently it's somewhat supported, but I would verify in their forums how successful that is.

http://homeseer.com/zigbee.html

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Russ Uno    2

I've been running openhab on a raspberry pi along with zwave and a pile of sensors I've built from MySensors.

Aside from the brain damage I got from learning (still in progress) Their programming language I love it. You can write just about any code you want to do anything. Once you learn their version of "functions" you can save a ton of code for reusable routines. If you don't like to tinker it's probably not for you but it is completely under you control.

 

  • Upvote 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
NAStyBox    23
Posted (edited)

I actually got my Smartthings hub fully functional again. Mainly because I'm not done setting up the other stuff. I figure I'll have everything else installed and tuned by the time Samsung pisses me off again, lol. For now all lights and motion sensors are working properly. 

Funny enough, the one function failure I had the most complaints about from the family is the one they giggled at when I put it in. I put a door sensor on our pantry and set it to turn the light on above the pantry when you open the door, and turn off the light when you closed the door, like a fridge. They all started b*tching when it failed, lol. I guess that's how automation works. Nobody cares when it goes in, but they flip out when they get used to it and it goes away. 

Edited by NAStyBox

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Tuftuf    13

I've only just starting to look at options, but I have a question!

 

I have some old ZigBee devices from 6-8 years ago, would they still be of any use and could I link them up to something like Z-Wave? PIR, Temp, Door sensors etc. I'm thinking I'd have to figure out how to program them again as it has been some years. Might be easier just to buy some new devices.

 

Also have a couple of Telegesis ETRX2USB-PA USB dongles, believe these were the ZigBee receivers and programmers(they have a cable attachment to connect them directly to the sensors).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
jonathanm    139
24 minutes ago, Tuftuf said:

 

I have some old ZigBee devices from 6-8 years ago, would they still be of any use and could I link them up to something like Z-Wave?

ZigBee and Z-Wave use 2 different frequencies and codings. Not in any way directly compatible. 

 

I don't think zigbee has much traction, don't know if it's practical to try to use old stuff.

 

(I'm a z-wave user, so I'm biased)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Russ Uno    2

I've been running mostly z-wave for over a year and it's been very reliable, way better than my old x10, except for the plug in switch in my greenhouse about 50 feet away.

Z-wave just complains it can't find it but it still works. I had to add a z-wave extender to an outlet on the wall closest to the Greenhouse to help it out but all is good now.

I really like the Temperature and Humidity sensors I built via mysensors.org they are very reliable and much better than the z-wave, plus I can program them to send readings as often as I wish. So I get readings from them via OpenHab and then turn fans, lights etc. on/off by the z-wave modules. The mysensors stuff operates on it's own radio frequency.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Tuftuf    13

I have much more research to do it seems and to understand the limits of z-wave compared to others suggested. It would be nice to be able to set how often updates appear.

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now

Copyright © 2005-2017 Lime Technology, Inc. unRAID® is a registered trademark of Lime Technology, Inc.