m0t0k0 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 The one I was looking at was sold by Amazon Export Sales LLC It says this on the shipping page AmazonGlobal makes international shipping easy by calculating import fees at checkout, as well as clearing customs for you. In addition, you have the visibility to track your packages door-to-door. Learn more On the order confirmation page is says no import tax is due Quote Link to comment
extrobe Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, m0t0k0 said: The one I was looking at was sold by Amazon Export Sales LLC It says this on the shipping page AmazonGlobal makes international shipping easy by calculating import fees at checkout, as well as clearing customs for you. In addition, you have the visibility to track your packages door-to-door. Learn more On the order confirmation page is says no import tax is due Mine says something a little different... I get the same message about shipping & calculating fees. On the confirmation page, it says it estimates no tax "Estimated tax to be collected: $0" However, just below the total, it then says Quote Please note that your country may charge import duties, taxes and fees that you may have to pay ahead of delivery So you may get lucky, but I think it's far from guaranteed. Tempted to give it a go, but I'm not desperate, so may pass for now. Edited April 21, 2017 by extrobe Quote Link to comment
Smitty2k1 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 My 8TB is about 30% precleared. Max temp of 53 so far (prrclearing external via usb3) Quote Link to comment
SSD Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 10 hours ago, Smitty2k1 said: My 8TB is about 30% precleared. Max temp of 53 so far (prrclearing external via usb3) Too hot! Blow a fan on the external case while it is preclearing! I shuck mine prior to preclearing. If may make warranty service more difficult, but doesn't preclear them in a sweatbox which can reduce the life of the drive. Quote Link to comment
Smitty2k1 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 1 hour ago, bjp999 said: Too hot! Blow a fan on the external case while it is preclearing! I shuck mine prior to preclearing. If may make warranty service more difficult, but doesn't preclear them in a sweatbox which can reduce the life of the drive. I'm not too worried about that temp for the 48 hours it will take to preclear Quote Link to comment
CyberSkulls Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 I would have also put a fan on them. That's just over 127F! I just sat an old 140mm fan I had over the top of three of mine during testing and they never broke 30C. Hottest one got up to 29C. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment
SSD Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 50 minutes ago, Smitty2k1 said: I'm not too worried about that temp for the 48 hours it will take to preclear In those 48 hours, you are doing as much I/O on the drive as you might in months of use. I believe that the burn in period is very important to maintain the drive at a healthy temperature. YMMV, but anyone reading should consider shucking first, or blowing a fan on the preclearing drive to maintain temps under 42C as Cyber has done. Why risk it? Quote Link to comment
BRiT Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Seagate makes and sells the drive to operate completely within that enclosure so whatever natural temps it hits during that use is well within how it was designed and expected to be used. Quote Link to comment
Harro Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 1 hour ago, BRiT said: Seagate makes and sells the drive to operate completely within that enclosure so whatever natural temps it hits during that use is well within how it was designed and expected to be used. That may be true but they are also in the business to sell drives/enclosures. So if a enclosure goes sour after 2 years, they are hoping the customer just buys a new one. Where as in unraid customer is looking for a longer life span from a drive. Having a new drive with high temps will only cause a shorter life span in my opinion. I shucked all mine and then pre-cleared with temps no higher than 32. They now are in array with average temp of 27-31. I am hoping these will give me a long life.Same as the drives I replaced which were 5-7 years old and no errors on them. Quote Link to comment
SSD Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 5 hours ago, Harro said: That may be true but they are also in the business to sell drives/enclosures. So if a enclosure goes sour after 2 years, they are hoping the customer just buys a new one. Where as in unraid customer is looking for a longer life span from a drive. Having a new drive with high temps will only cause a shorter life span in my opinion. I shucked all mine and then pre-cleared with temps no higher than 32. They now are in array with average temp of 27-31. I am hoping these will give me a long life.Same as the drives I replaced which were 5-7 years old and no errors on them. ^ This! There is a reason the externals only carry a1 year warranty. If you look at the reviews of the external vs the internal, you see that the interval fares much better. Quote Link to comment
BRiT Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 On 4/15/2017 at 6:06 AM, bjp999 said: And very likely the usb will alter things so when you pull it out, it won't recognize the preclear signature. I just installed the 3 drives internally on the PERC H310 controller and ran a Verify MBR preclear signature test. All 3 passed and show as verified precleared. Here's the result of the preclear popups. ############################################################################################################################ # # # unRAID Server: verifying Preclear State of '/dev/sdk' . # # Verifying disk '/dev/sdk' for unRAID's Preclear State. # # # # # # Step 1 of 1 - Verifying unRAID's Preclear MBR: SUCCESS # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ############################################################################################################################ # Total elapsed time: 0:00:13 # ############################################################################################################################ --> RESULT: SUCCESS! Disk /dev/sdk has been verified precleared! ############################################################################################################################ # # # unRAID Server: verifying Preclear State of '/dev/sdj' . # # Verifying disk '/dev/sdj' for unRAID's Preclear State. # # # # # # Step 1 of 1 - Verifying unRAID's Preclear MBR: SUCCESS # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ############################################################################################################################ # Total elapsed time: 0:00:13 # ############################################################################################################################ --> RESULT: SUCCESS! Disk /dev/sdj has been verified precleared! ############################################################################################################################ # # # unRAID Server: verifying Preclear State of '/dev/sdj' . # # Verifying disk '/dev/sdj' for unRAID's Preclear State. # # # # # # Step 1 of 1 - Verifying unRAID's Preclear MBR: SUCCESS # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ############################################################################################################################ # Total elapsed time: 0:00:13 # ############################################################################################################################ --> RESULT: SUCCESS! Disk /dev/sdj has been verified precleared! Quote Link to comment
Harro Posted May 4, 2017 Share Posted May 4, 2017 Newegg has these on sale for 174.99 with this promo code EMCRFRE42 Seagate Expansion 8TB Quote Link to comment
KR1SeS Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I just shucked one of these and I got this drive: Seagate Barracuda Compute - Part No. ST8000DM004 Can anyone tell me if this is similar to the archive drives that usually get shucked from the Seagate Expansion 8TB? Quote Link to comment
JorgeB Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, KR1SeS said: ST8000DM004 That's an SMR drive, very similar to the new Archive v3, but with a lower workload rating. 1 Quote Link to comment
KR1SeS Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 1 minute ago, johnnie.black said: That's an SMR drive, very similar to the new Archive v3, but with a lower workload rating. I see, thanks for the reply. I'm still going to use it as my parity drive anyways since my server is mainly for Plex movies and some data archiving. Quote Link to comment
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