page3 Posted September 13, 2016 Share Posted September 13, 2016 I'm currently using an Time Machine with an AFP share. It works OK except that my Mac looses the mount every so often. SMB became the preferred way for mounting volumes in 10.11 but AFP was still required (or preferred?) for Time Machine. UnRaid has a special share option for this - "TimeMachine This setting enables various special options for TimeMachine; in particular a "volume size limit"." In Sierra apparently Time Machine can now use SMB. Is anyone using this? Do I simply switch off the AFP share and enable the SMB one. There is no special Time Machine option within unRaid for SMB. Many thanks. Quote Link to comment
MisterTwo Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 To anyone else who found this post trying to resolve Unraid + MacOS Sierra 10.12 Time Machine issues, I followed the following steps on the Synology forum and it resolved the issue on both my machines. I'm assuming it will be patched in a future MacOS release. [*]Mount the time machine volume as AFP volume: In macOS Finder -> CMD+k (use afp://ip.address/share_name) [*]Go to macOS System Preferences -> Time Machine -> Select Disk, select the volume you just mounted. [*]Unmount the share you manually mounted [*]Time Machine will try to log on and will mount the volume again. [*]After it finishes up checking it will unmount the volume automagically. Quote Link to comment
barakthecat Posted October 3, 2016 Share Posted October 3, 2016 I haven't been able to get an SMB mount to show up as an option in TimeMachine. Apple's documentation states "Note: Some SMB and AFP disks from manufacturers other than Apple don’t support Time Machine. If your network uses an SMB or AFP disk, but the disk doesn’t appear in the list of devices available for Time Machine backups, contact the disk’s manufacturer." So not sure what needs to happen for this to work on unRAID, but would love to see it happen. I know Lime Tech has wanted to shut off AFP for a while, this is the path to make that happen! Quote Link to comment
EdgarWallace Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I am running Time Machine via SMB as the picture is showing (TMO auf "tower) but it seems that I still have to activate the same share via AFP ("TMO auf Tower-AFP" as available device for Time Machine) As soon as I am switching off AFP Time Machine stops working and doesn't find the share anymore. Maybe we need a kind of "Time Machine" switch similar to that what is available in AFP? Not sure what it does.... Quote Link to comment
spencers Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Here's Apple's official guide for Time Machine over SMB. https://developer.apple.com/library/content/releasenotes/NetworkingInternetWeb/Time_Machine_SMB_Spec/ Is unRAID's SMB version 3.x? Quote Link to comment
wgstarks Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I think unRaid is using SMB 2 still, but that will only be one part of the issue. As far as I can tell, unRaid doesn't have any Bonjour support. My guess is that most of the other requirements are not currently supported and some may not be unRaid issues but rather Samba. Quote Link to comment
limetech Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 I think unRaid is using SMB 2 still, but that will only be one part of the issue. As far as I can tell, unRaid doesn't have any Bonjour support. My guess is that most of the other requirements are not currently supported and some may not be unRaid issues but rather Samba. Please don't post speculation. unRAID has supported SMB3 for a long time, as well as AVAHI, aka zeroconf, aka "Bonjour". The work required to get Samba to support TimeMachine via SMB is in process: https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12380 As soon as it's ready it will show up in an unRAID pre-release. In the meantime, has anyone tried this method? http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/turn-nas-windows-share-time-machine-backup/ Quote Link to comment
EdgarWallace Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 The work required to get Samba to support TimeMachine via SMB is in process: https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12380 As soon as it's ready it will show up in an unRAID pre-release. In the meantime, has anyone tried this method? http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/turn-nas-windows-share-time-machine-backup/ That is great news!! I am using Time Machine over SMB - see my post above. Working really well as long as I am keeping AFP switched on. Quote Link to comment
wgstarks Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 The work required to get Samba to support TimeMachine via SMB is in process: https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12380 As soon as it's ready it will show up in an unRAID pre-release. In the meantime, has anyone tried this method? http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/turn-nas-windows-share-time-machine-backup/ That is great news!! I am using Time Machine over SMB - see my post above. Working really well as long as I am keeping AFP switched on. AVAHI (Bonjour) is turned on and off with the AFP Share Settings. http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=20653.msg183055#msg183055 Quote Link to comment
limetech Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 The work required to get Samba to support TimeMachine via SMB is in process: https://bugzilla.samba.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12380 As soon as it's ready it will show up in an unRAID pre-release. In the meantime, has anyone tried this method? http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/turn-nas-windows-share-time-machine-backup/ That is great news!! I am using Time Machine over SMB - see my post above. Working really well as long as I am keeping AFP switched on. AVAHI (Bonjour) is turned on and off with the AFP Share Settings. http://lime-technology.com/forum/index.php?topic=20653.msg183055#msg183055 That is no longer true. avahi enable/disable is independent of afp and actually there is no webGui control to turn avahi on/off. There are a set of avahi-related config settings on the flash in config/share.cfg: shareAvahiEnabled="yes" shareAvahiSMBName="%h" shareAvahiSMBModel="Xserve" shareAvahiAFPName="%h-AFP" shareAvahiAFPModel="Xserve" If you want to turn off avahi you can edit that file and change yes to no. If for some reason it's set to no in your server you can change to yes. When TimeMachine support has been properly integrated into Samba we plan to overhaul the OSX integration in unRAID. Quote Link to comment
almarma Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 Any advance in this matter? I have seen now unRAID has support for VFS_FRUIT with the option called "Enhanced OS X interoperability:" I've enabled that option for all my shares, but Time Machine keeps offering the server for backups just through AFP as usual (not visible though SMB). Quote Link to comment
wgstarks Posted November 2, 2017 Share Posted November 2, 2017 24 minutes ago, almarma said: Any advance in this matter? I have seen now unRAID has support for VFS_FRUIT with the option called "Enhanced OS X interoperability:" I've enabled that option for all my shares, but Time Machine keeps offering the server for backups just through AFP as usual (not visible though SMB). I wouldn’t use the enhanced setting. It alters permissions on files that you write to the share and can cause issues sharing files between users, apps, dockers, etc. Quote Link to comment
Can0n Posted November 6, 2017 Share Posted November 6, 2017 (edited) I was able to successfully set up TimeMachine and outlined how i did it here Edited November 6, 2017 by Can0nfan spelling Quote Link to comment
almarma Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 On 2/11/2017 at 2:50 PM, wgstarks said: I wouldn’t use the enhanced setting. It alters permissions on files that you write to the share and can cause issues sharing files between users, apps, dockers, etc. Could you please elaborate more on that or post a link? I'm surprised it can damage the permissions. I thought that option would work better with Macs, as that's the point of the option and that's what I'm using and will keep using in the future. So I don't understand why it would be troublesome :(. Quote Link to comment
wgstarks Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 2 hours ago, almarma said: Could you please elaborate more on that or post a link? I'm surprised it can damage the permissions. I thought that option would work better with Macs, as that's the point of the option and that's what I'm using and will keep using in the future. So I don't understand why it would be troublesome :(. Here’s a link to the defect report I submitted- https://forums.lime-technology.com/topic/59899-635permission-issues-with-smb-shares-when-connecting-from-a-mac/ I suspect this isn’t really an unRAID issue, but rather a VFS_fruit issue. I’ve seen other complaints of this sort regarding VFS_fruit but haven’t been able to find anything concrete. Just complaints of improper permissions. Quote Link to comment
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