justinkas Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 I've been on unraid for years and have the latest version installed. I'm a Mac user and when I use Finder to browse folders & files on my unraid box, I always find it tediously slow to update and expand folders - sometimes files don't appear on the list when a folder is expanded at all. And then all of a sudden they appear. It's as if Finder just doesn't work well with browsing, copying, deleting etc. as it is very slow and sometimes non-accurate as to what's in a folder. Any ideas on a better solution to browsing the shares on my box with faster and more accurate results? Problem is that if say I open a folder on a share and nothing shows up files wise, then I decide to delete the folder thinking it is empty. But low and behold I just deleted a folder full of files - thanks Mac Finder. Suggestions would be much appreciated... Quote Link to comment
plupien79 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 From the Internets... After enabling Internet Sharing (System Preferences/Sharing/Internet Sharing/AirPort) the problem was solved. For security reasons (after enabling Internet Sharing) I did turn Airport:Off (via the menubar item). Quote Link to comment
justinkas Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 Okay I will try that but what if I don't use an Airport, I use an Asus Router? Quote Link to comment
justinkas Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 Sadly no....that did nothing positive... Quote Link to comment
trurl Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 Probably the drives have spun down and you have to wait for them to spin up again before you can get anything from them. You might try the Cache Dirs plugin. Quote Link to comment
justinkas Posted November 19, 2015 Author Share Posted November 19, 2015 How long does it take the CacheDirs plug in to get everything cached? I installed it but didn't see much of anything different from the get-go. Why is it that when using a Windows machine the directories load like lightning and don't have these issues like the Mac Finder when browsing share directories? This is soooo frustrating... Quote Link to comment
Russ Uno Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I have the same issue OSX 6.8 and 8.5 I find that if the server is left connected and not spun down it is faster but when first connected it takes 2 1/2 minutes to see 3 folders down with only a few items each. No spun down drives, Hard wired, just slow for some reason. This is from at least 3 Macs: Mac Mini (PVR), iMac and MacPro... The MacPro is less than 3 feet away. Dosen't matter if it is AFP or SMB. It use to be much faster with UnRaid v4.x ... Quote Link to comment
justinkas Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 I totally agree...it's almost unbearable, and seeing how 99.8% of the world now use Macs (LOL - kidding) this should be corrected in some form of expedient manner. Quote Link to comment
spants Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I think it is related to OSX switching from SMB1 to SMB2 to SMB3 in the latest OSX. Try this to switch your mac back to the more reliable SMB1 http://www.macparc.ch/apps/SMBconf/ It used to take about 10 secs to freshly load a directory on the server, it is now much quicker. Quote Link to comment
Russ Uno Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I think it is related to OSX switching from SMB1 to SMB2 to SMB3 in the latest OSX. Try this to switch your mac back to the more reliable SMB1 http://www.macparc.ch/apps/SMBconf/ It used to take about 10 secs to freshly load a directory on the server, it is now much quicker. That's not my issue since I am running OSX 6.8 & 8.5.. That only applies to OSX 9 and higher. Quote Link to comment
spants Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 ok, just re-read... It is strange that it occurs with afp and smb. Sorry I cant help. (For others with slow directory loading (osx 9+), with El Capitan OSX and SMB1 selected it is like having a new faster server for me.) Quote Link to comment
clowrym Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 I've had this issue on all version of OSX & Unraid for the past 4 or 5 years. I've never had an issue with incorrect, or missing directories though, just slow initial access....I've given up trying to find a solution, nothing I've tried has made a difference! Quote Link to comment
Russ Uno Posted December 12, 2015 Share Posted December 12, 2015 I don't want to speak too soon but I may have found the reason as to why it takes so long to list a directory from the server. I turned off export SMB both for shares and disk and for the past week it has been much quicker. Even though I'm not connected as SMB to this server, my backups server, it seems to affect the time it takes to show in AFP. It would be interesting to see if someone else has the same results with just exporting in one format, either AFP or SMB. My other server, media server, is connected as SMB so I'll have to test that by turning off AFP. Quote Link to comment
clowrym Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 I don't want to speak too soon but I may have found the reason as to why it takes so long to list a directory from the server. I turned off export SMB both for shares and disk and for the past week it has been much quicker. Even though I'm not connected as SMB to this server, my backups server, it seems to affect the time it takes to show in AFP. It would be interesting to see if someone else has the same results with just exporting in one format, either AFP or SMB. My other server, media server, is connected as SMB so I'll have to test that by turning off AFP. Hasnt seemed to make any difference in my case..... Quote Link to comment
Russ Uno Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 It's has improved here 1000%. It now takes seconds to open folder that used to take minutes. I turned off all dual exporting; SMB off if using AFP for both disk and Shares, AFP off if using SMB. I also found that sparse."bundles" do not play well with unraid/linux, I have gone back to using sparse."image" for my backups. I still have 2 bundles but I can not avoid it since they are not replaceable with images but they are deep in a number of folder levels and rarely expose them. I believe Time Machine uses bundles so I'm not sure how they get around that. Size for bundles won't even calculate. I don't know why UnRaid has a problem exporting both AFP and SMB when nothing is connected with SMB and only AFP or the other way around. Seems like it tries to export both even though only one is connected. Quote Link to comment
riff.79 Posted January 26, 2016 Share Posted January 26, 2016 Same issue here, and I have tried all the suggestions, takes minutes to bring up my large music share. Something with OSX as Windows does not even flinch, super lighting fast. Quote Link to comment
Russ Uno Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Are you connecting via AFP or SMB? Which Mac OS? Quote Link to comment
lishpy Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 Regarding the slowness, I've been experiencing this issue since I first started using unRAID maybe in 2008? Anyway, it always was delayed and every time I'd open the share after not using it for a while, it'd take a LONG time to populate my folders and their contents. As of about a month ago, this no longer happens anymore. I'm running the latest OS X beta 10.11.4 (15E27e) and my shares load instantly along with all of the subfolders and files. Every single time, even if I go days not opening my shares it's nearly instant. No clue what changed on the OS X end, but it's persisted through the last few betas and its great. Running 6.1.7 and I've made zero changes to my unRAID server in years. Connecting via SMB. Quote Link to comment
clowrym Posted January 27, 2016 Share Posted January 27, 2016 I'm on the latest OSX, SMB only....AFP shut off, same as lushly said, I've had this issue since 2006-07 whenever i started using unraid....unlike him, my issue hasn't gone away!! Quote Link to comment
riff.79 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 OSX 10.11. SMB and AFP both are painfully slow. I have cached dirs turned on, but on both my Macs, it causes my disks to spin up. I makes navigating my music collection almost impossible. Quote Link to comment
Russ Uno Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Has anyone tried disabling spotlight on those shares? Doing so seems to have cut my load times in half.. I say seems to because I need to run further test but initially on the Disk shares I have it disabled on take half the time then the ones it is not disabled on. I will know better after a week or two if it is consistent. Also as I said before only exporting all shares in only one format either SMB or AFP including disk shares, never have anything exported in 2 formats has made a huge difference on my #2 server. Quote Link to comment
riff.79 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Spotlight didn't help, nor just AFP or SMB. Quote Link to comment
clowrym Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 Disabled spotlight on mine this morning, didn't seem to make a difference on initial testing, but will check it out again tonight Quote Link to comment
riff.79 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 No luck with disabling spotlight. Quote Link to comment
Clink Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 The "Calculate all sizes" folder option is also worth checking - sometimes I forget that I set it earlier & wonder why everything is so slow. Quote Link to comment
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