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  1. Just passed the two year mark as an Unraid user. Fantastic product, but it's the community that makes it truly shine. Thank you all, both developers and fellow users.
  2. Regarding C states, those are CPU power management settings. Enabling them allows the CPU to enter idle/low power mode when not in use. Unless you need your system running at full power all the time then you definitely want that enabled. Look for cool'n'quiet option if you can't find c-states in the BIOS and enable that. We used to (up to a year or so back) have to disable C states on Ryzen systems to prevent a periodic lock-up problem. Thankfully AMD finally pinned it down to an issue with some (possibly most) power supplies dropping their voltage down when demand was idle, and not being able to ramp up quickly enough when demand resumed. To fix this all motherboard suppliers updated their BIOS, and to keep your system stable, all you need to do is find the 'Power supply idle mode' and make sure that is set to Typical Idle Current, or Common Idle Current rather than auto. The exact wording differs between motherboard manufacturers.
  3. Hey Tola5, On the zenstates, no you don't need to play around with those any more. It turned out that the lockup problem was to do with most power supplies idling at too l;ow a voltage for the Ryzen CPU, which resulted in that lockup. To avoid that problem the motherboard manufacturers introduced a #Power Supply Idle' mode. Find that in the BIOS and set it to 'Typical Current Idle'. On the GPU issue, take a look at Gridrunner's youtube video: Hopefully that will help.
  4. Set your BIOS 'Power Supply Idle Mode' to 'Typical Current Idle' (or whatever the Asus equivalent wording is) and all should be golden. Have fun
  5. You won't be disappointed. I have been running mine now for a couple of months with much the same hardware (exact spec in my signature) and it has been both pain and lockup-free. There's no reason to expect any problem with the 1080Ti. I'm using a GTX 970 without hassle, but there plenty of reports of success with your model too. If unsure of the process then Gridrunner's guide is a handy reference. The power draw will just be a trickle until it is in use. If you are curious then you can always invest a few <insert local currency> in a wall socket power-meter. It's always fun to actually see hard data as opposed to supposition. In my own case I'm idling at 95W with just a couple of minor container/VM running 24x7, and that spikes to 270W when gaming on a Windows VM.
  6. If you prod around your BIOS options there should be the facility to set the primary GPU to iGPU (or similar wording). You will need either a dedicated monitor for that, or one that allows you to have both iGPU and dedicated connected (with the option to switch between inputs).
  7. I would say that the 1800X is definitely good enough. The 2700X is slightly more performant, and between it and the X470 motherboards there is a little better memory compatability, but nothing earth shattering. One thing to remember though is that the 1800X does not come with a cooler, whereas the 2700X does (Wraith spire RGB - perfectly adequate unless you plan to overclock). That brings the price closer, and perhaps makes the 2700X the better option when you consider the performance gain (you won't need it, but for a few dollars more it doesn't hurt).
  8. Idle power draw is 95 Watts on my 2700X, with 2 x HDD, 2 x SSD, 1 x GTX970, 1 x GTX710 (both GPU unallocated). 1 x docker image (pihole), and 1 x Ubuntu VM (a VPN gateway, so very little CPU usage) are active. When I run a Windows gaming VM (with the GTX 970 and all CPU cores allocated) the power draw goes up to around 270W. I think that's pretty reasonable. My previous HP microserver (with a very low power draw CPU) was around 45W idle.
  9. Hi Pete, I can't look at attachments at the moment, but focusing on the stall warning in that screenshot, I came across this kernel document detailing possible causes. https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/RCU/stallwarn.txt Now there's plenty of possibilities, and in general your idea to update BIOS and remove unnecessary hardware is a good one, but in this case I don't think that either of those will help (please do update the BIOS though - that's almost always a good thing to have at the latest version). What might be worth trying (regarding the BIOS) is after updating, reset to default parameters, and then go through and just ensure that just the needed options are altered (saving your current BIOS config first would be a good idea if your BIOS supports that option). The screenshot shows that the stall is on CPU 0, which I understand to be the CPU primarily used by uNRAID. I would suggest that you check any active VMs to make sure that you do not have that core bound to them. Also make sure that your CPU temperatures are ok. Thermal throttling can cause this, though I suspect that's an edge case thing. Doesn't do any harm to make sure that your cooling solution is working though (I.E. clean your CPU radiator of dust, make sure fans, etc are working, check CPU temps in web UI). Last idea is that you check those log files to see if the stall warning is in there (as I mentioned, I am not able to look at them currently). The stallwarn document linked above advises: ...so there may be some additional clues. Best of luck.
  10. Intel's 28 core demo was apparently just one of their Xeon ($10,000) chips massively cooled and overclocked (that bulky wrapped tube/cable leading out of the back led to an external sub-zero cooling unit). It very much seems that this was a blatant attempt to steal AMD's thunder, with no actual substance. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-28-core-processor-5ghz-motherboard,37213.html Conversely, AMD's 24 core Threadripper 2 demo was air cooled. Very impressive. They didn't go into cooling details for their brief 32 core demo, but presumably it too just uses some sane cooling solution as opposed to Intel's 1000 Watt external unit. Anyway, Intels asinine shennanigans aside, things are looking very rosy in the near future for anyone wanting some serious grunt in their unRAID system.
  11. I did a sanity check on the motherboard's spec page just to confirm ECC support. Looks good (I was just concerned that some motherboards support ECC, but only as normal memory - not a problem with this one). The only point to flag on the memory (assuming that Gigabyte confirm support for that particular RAM flavour) is that Ryzen benefits from faster RAM to a greater degree than Intel due to the Infinity Fabric running at the RAM speed, but some digging suggests that the difference may be as little as 10%, with another low single digit performance hit for running ECC. Personally I wouldn't notice the loss, as it would still be hitting my 'fast enough' threshold. GPU pass through works well. I'm using a 970 rather than your 1070, but there's plenty of people with that card reporting success, so no problem there. For stability on the 2700X you just need to ensure that the motherboard's 'Power Supply Idle' BIOS option is set to 'Typical' rather than the default 'Auto' and you should be free of lockups. Worst case you can disable c6 states too, but it's unlikely that would be needed. One suggestion though, make sure that the motherboard is flashed to a recent BIOS. If it is one that has been sitting in a warehouse for a while then it won't have a BIOS version that supports the 2700 processor.
  12. As far as I am aware, the only significant difference between the boards is the support for faster memory on the X470 (2933 vs 2667 on the X370). I've seen reviewers do CPU performance testing with a new Ryzen+ processor on X470/X370, with no difference in the results. Personally my remote startup gets no more exciting than using my phone's web browser when I wake up in the morning, but check out Gridrunner's video here, it may give you some inspiration:
  13. I can't recommend a specific board, but I can perhaps narrow down your choices. I went for the MSI Gaming Pro Carbon AC (AC being the model that has integrated wifi/bluetooth). That's a nice X470 board, with eight SATA ports, but the AC model's integrated wifi is stuck in the same IOMMU group as the network card (with or without ACS override). One to drop from your list (though the non-AC model with an add-on wifi card would be viable, and just as nice a board). I'm assuming that you don't want to run your Mac OS VM and Windows Gaming VM simultaneously, in which case you won't need the multi-gpu support that the X370/X470 motherboards provide, and can save some money (and reduce the list of boards that you need to consider) by focusing on the B350 (single GPU) range. The new B450 range is due for release any day now, but if the X370/X470 pattern is anything to go by then you won't miss out on anything significant by going for the B350 and will save some money. Good hunting
  14. You might try using a separate VNC client rather than the default web one. I've not had problems with it on unRAID, but I have had that issue with web-vnc elsewhere. Gridrunner (youtube channel: Spaceinvader One) posted a video that mentions this, and you might find that helpful. I've set the timestamp at the start of that section in this link: Since you've already tried nomachine, you might find that this doesn't overcome the problem, but I'd say it's worth a try. Best of luck.
  15. The Ryzen 2xxx range does now seem to be stable with the introduction of 'Power Supply Idle' motherboard BIOS option. Changing that from the default of 'auto' to 'Typical' does seem to fix the lockup problem, without the need to modify C-states. To help you decide whether that makes things stable enough for you I would recommend the following kernel thread. Lots of good information earlier, but I've bookmarked comment 318 as a reasonable starting point for browsing the thread. https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=196683#c318 As much as I'm enjoying my new (and so far, stable) MSI X470 mobo/Ryzen 2700x combo, if stability is absolutely paramount to you then you might want to consider Intel. It does seem like Ryzen is over the hump, but I'm not sure if it is yet at the 99.999+% reliability that we would hope for.